Forum Archive: Wherefore the Grateful Dead

We would like to see your comments on whether the Dead could and should continue to tour as a band. Subjects which might be addressed might include if and how Jerry could be replaced; should the band change its name; musicians to recruit; changes in touring; the band's repertoire. Posted 4/21/96.


The Grateful Dead definately should not continue to tour as a band - Daniel C. Penney (gandalf@cwest.com)

I hate to sound like a grinch, but without Jerry there is no Grateful Dead. There's still one helluva great creative potential, but Jerry was the heart of the entity we knew as the Dead. There is no "replacing" Jerry. There's no possible (satisfactory) substitute! It's best to respect the memory and place in history the group holds, and let it be.

The other band members have always had their outside interests, and now appears to be the perfect time to pursue them to the fullest. Please don't go picking over the corpse looking for another buck to be made! Don't do a Yoko by exploting, and thereby cheapening, what should be a pristine memory. Let it be.


The Grateful Dead definately should do what they want - Sabrina Rust (Rusts@bus.svhs.cache.k12.ut.us)

I'm a true fan that had the ill luck of being born late. I'm only seventeen and only made it to the Salt Lake '95 and Vegas '95 shows. It was a great experience and it opened my eyes to a whole new world. I would hate to see the Dead die out, and think it can still be an experience for people like me, but I really don't think they'll ever be the true Dead without Crazy Fingers.


shawn stoyle (sstoyle@megahertz.com)

What if they continued to tour, but each show had a "special guest." Depending on who was in town on any particular evening, the line-up could include all types of musicians and musical styles.

Or maybe different tours feature different musicians. Santana, Dylan, Sting, B.Marsalis, whoever! They could mix up songs from both artists and make each tour as unique as it ever was. Not only giving the boys to play all kinds of new music, but also giving new life to old classics.


Dead should not tour. Maybe Farewell Tour - KRINGLE (DAME4492@MARS.ROWAN.EDU)

I love the Grateful Dead and will miss them all very much, but aside a Farewell Tour They need to honor Jerry and just let the music live on for ever.


The Grateful Dead are history - Steve Skaggs (sxskag01@Homer.Louisville.edu)

You know, all good things come to an end. There are those who, even in the few years before Jerry died, felt the music's soul beginning to slip away. In August of 1995, the door did not slam shut: what you heard was the the light switch flicking off, the quiet turn of the lock, the click of the latch, and the gentle padding of receding footsteps.

All best wishes to the remaining musicians in whatever activities they may choose to fill their coming days.

For the rest of us: keep those capstans oiled, and cue the tape!


Play it Loud - John Lynn (b.hanyes@hp.com)

There could never be a Grateful Dead without Jerry.While the further festival should be a great way to bring the family together.The jones I feel for to flow within that musical landscape can not be filled by Ratdog or any other band members on his own.The one thing that can help is those wonderful tapes played loud.So forget the acoustic between band acts and give us what we need boys!Play those vault tapes and play it loud.


The New Deal - Dave Blackburn (david_blackburn@otter.monterey.edu)

I was at the Laguana Seca Shows, and while I hate to be overly critical, Rad Dog needs some color. Their sound is somewhat monochromatic, and the music doesn't have that "bouncing ball" quality that makes people want to dance. Still it was great to be at a show, and I'll take Bob over nothing any day of the week. I'm looking forward to "Furthur", Mabey Bruce Hornsbey can jump onst Bob and light things up a bit See Y'all there!.


I can't think of a place i'd rather be than another show - GREG LAKATOS (kato_man@msn.com)

I'd give anything to be able to jump in the car with all my buds and our buds and scuttle off to wherever to catch another show. Whenever i'm jammin out to my tapes i think about what it would be like if someone else were standing in jerry's spot--and i just can't. There's magic in that voice. I don't want to hear anyone else singin' 'jerry tunes'. Even the tunes that aren't originals jerry just added something special to them. Besides, who else could pick all those tunes so well? I'm listening to ' loose lucy' right now -- would it still be a 'real good time' without 'him' up there? I think that the other guys should keep goin with their bands and definitely do some touring--we'll still get to hear a lot of great tunes and see some real legends in action. I will definitely be there. As for jerry tunes, keep your tape collection full and keep jammin' the legend will never die.


The Grateful Dead could never continue without Garcia. - Nestor Ovares (vaman@ix.netcom.com)

The band that we all have come to know and follow for 30+ years ended the tragic day that Jerry passed away. I think that it would be hard to find an individual that meant so much to the individuality of the sound of any band. The other members should continue and take advantage of the years of playing together. There are hundreds of creative guitarists out there that could forge a whole new sound with the remainding members. The addition of a horn player could also add new colors and exciting possibilities. I hope that new projects and ensembles grow from the remainder band members but PLEASE leave the name "Grateful Dead" and what the band was and stood for alone and let's move forward towards other directions.


The Grateful Dead is Over - Andrew Wigdahl (wigdahla@alpha.montclair.edu)

For anyone who thinks that Jerry can be replaced, I would ask them to consider the divisive criticism that every member who ever sat on that keyboard bench was greeted with. The great irony of the deadhead culture is that we perceive ourselves as flexible, open-minded individuals, yet we are intolerany to any change in the scene. If we had opened our hearts and minds to the new individuals joining the scene, whether they were "touch"heads or new band members, our scene may have never attained the level of negativity which peaked with the disasters of Summer '95. Perhaps Brent might still be alive. And then there's Jerry.... Jerry is an icon. He was OUR icon. This was never his goal. We, outside of the family, may never know why he let his demons beat him. However, I feel that our adoration and adulation for him were too intense for him to handle. This was especially true in the last three years when the crowd would mindlessly cheer him on when he barely put forth an effort. At some point, I feel that he just gave in and stopped trying ("gave all you got, why you wanna give more?") Jerry can not replaced and I extend my sympathy to any person who is ever chosen to attempt that feat. Jerry did not want (or could not) live up to our expectations of him. How can we expect someone else to? We can see the boys play in there various incarnations. Those people who were only carpet bagging our scene for the party will go on with other pursuits. Those of us who are still interested in seeing our friends and listening to great music will be there, open-minded, and ready for new experiences. It will be very different but that's the point.There are plenty of other bands to see when the remaining Dead are not toug. Take a chance. Buy a ticket!


I know it would never happen but.... - K Delano (Prim8@gnn.com)

Jerry can never be replaced, but part of the beauty of this band is how they always seemed to continue against all possible odds. If anyone could come near replacing Garcia, musically and spritually, it would be Carlos Santana. As far as vocals... that should be easy.. Jerry wasnt the best of singers.

"The music never stopped!!!" Peace, KD


As much as I hate to say it... - Pat Cook (PVC Nova@aol.com)

I love the Grateful Dead. It's that simple. I love the music, the electricity of the crowd when the house lights go down, the smells, the people, the band. I love the feeling of warmth I get at Dead shows. I love it. At least, I LOVED it. But, as much as I hate to say it, it's gone. Last night, two friends and I trekked from suburban Chicago to Deer Creek to catch Furthur. I just really wanted to hear Ratdog, because it seems like they will carry the torch. So we went, and we saw. And I loved it. It was nice to hear "Minglewood" and "Miracle" again. And it was nice to hear Bobby do "Blackbird" and "Shade of Gray." But, alas, it was not nice to hear "Cassidy." It just sounded so lost and empty. Not that they were trying to recreate the Dead and failed, but rather like they were saying, "See, here's what we'd sound likewithout you-know-who." And it made me real sad to hear it. And then during his bass solo, Rob did a fantastic "St. Stephen Jam" for what seemed like hours. Everyone was screaming and shouting for Bob to just get it over with and end its 13 year abscence, andI did too, but deep down inside something occured to me: It's over. Jerry's gone, and no matter what wildness Rob and Bob and Matt pulled out of their collective hat, it was not the Dead. It was something different from, and as special as, the Dead, and I'm sure I'll embrace it and love it as I did the Dead. Jerry WAS the Dead, he was its spirit, its inspiration. And he's gone. And they're gone. Just as Zeppelin said to their loyal masses when Bonham died, Bobby was SCREAMING to me lastnight, "We cannot go on as we were." And I neither want nor expect them to.


The Grateful Dead goes on in all of us - Steven Tenenbaum (Direwolf @inlink.com)

The Grateful Dead has been contributing to my life for the past 25 years. When Jerry died, I felt as though I lost a close friend, maybe a family member. But just as you mourn the loss of a friend, while retaining the memories, I realize that the Grateful Dead continue on in all of us that were touched by the music. Whether or not Ratdog & co. does it for you or not, the road goes ever on, within.


Sad, but true........it's over - Valerie Stevenson (Valerie_ROS@wow.com)

The issue is not whether or not they can go as the Dead, Jerry's Dead and it's over. At first a million ideas came to mind, that was the denial, then I went to see Ratdog at the Hog Farm Pignick in Leytonville, CA last Labor Day weekend. When I saw Bobby with Ratdog it was truely depressing, it made me realize that it truely was over. In my heart I knew that, but after 20 years on tour and some 750+ shows, it was the end of my life as I knew it. Now that some time has passed I can listen to tapes without crying and I can even make it through a video tape.

Recently I've seen Zero twice. The first time was good, as always. The second time the opening band was the Steve Bachall Band which is Jerry's old band, or what's left (I guess he needed a base player wherever he is and Phil wasn't ready.......) - Melvin, the girls, the drummer, Steve Bachall on rythm and Steve Kimock from Zero played lead. I swear Jerry was in Kimock's guitar, you had to be there, it was amazing. Then Kimock played with Zero and that was way better than last month (5/96 and 6/96 in SF). So what's the point you might ask. Well, Kimock plays both lead and rythm for Zero, they need a rythm guitarist for playing live. Both bands with Bobby and/or Phil and some mix thereof would be incredible.

They're playing together again in Marin with Merle in August. I expect it will be mind bending!


Steve Kimmock (sp?) of Zero and the Dead - Pascal Mittermaier (Pascal Mittermaier@roche.com)

I've often thought that if anyone at all could fill Jerry's shoes it could be Steve Kimmock, ZERO's lead guitarist. He has a lot of what made Jerry so amazing : lightness, improvisation, gritty blues, sweet ballads (just listen to Chance in a Million!). His playing can take you way out there into space and then bring you crashing back home with a "Highway 61"... It's the same "take chances" philosophy that the Dead had. I don't think he could fill Jerry's singing shoes - nobody will be able to delive those soulfull ballads the way Garcia did. But I think Steve would add a great new challange to the band. I'd love to hear him front the Dead...It would be great to hear a new approach to some of the jam songs like, say, Estimated , Shakedown, or even Dark Star...I bet they could really freshen those songs up. And I agree with many of the other comments listed above : they could bring Branford or Dave Murray on, Santana. On the other hand, they shouldn't just try to recreate something that's gone. They should focus on creating something new based on the long history and tradition that they have. Realistically speaking, though I doubt very much it'll happen. Maybe they're better off each doing their own stuff...What is Billy doing these days, by the wya? Has he quit completely? I guess drumming non stop for 30 years will wear you out!


Bela Fleck can fill out the Grateful Dead lineup - Kevin M. Swedlow (phishous@aol.com)

I belive that the bluegrass roots the Jerry Garcia brought to the Grateful Ded could be well reminiced by the Jazz Banjo of Bela Fleck. This would be a new direction in the community of the Grateful Dead, but not to different then the Dead already are. It has been my dream to hear Estimated Prophet with a banjo melody... maybe even electric banjo!


Maybe yes-Maybe no--It all depends on them! - Bill Kessler (billk11@ix.netcom.com)

My feeling for the immediate future is no. After Furthur there still seems to be a grieving process in progress. Also the other band members who have solo projects seem to want to flesh out those efforts. It did take Mickey 3 years or so to get Mystery Box afloat. Even though I'd like to see more GD tours, I feel the band members want to take the time now to stretch out on their own, get some well deserved R&R, etc.

Maybe in the future (who's to say how long?) when that GD jones returns to the boyz, they could try a reunion of sorts. By then there (dare I say it?) might be a guitarist who could fit into the mix and make things sound respectable, or even grrrrreat!! Who knows. I for one will keep and open mind and ear to the future. It goes to show "You Never Can Tell"!!


going faster and getting rounder - Mark A. Landers (inkum@midtownprinting.com)

I recall when Pig died people thought that that would be the end of our scene.

I recall when that "new guy" Brent was hired on it will never be the same. As it turned out, Brent wrote some beautiful tunes.

I recall during the eighties that the brothers and sister on tour were simply wannabe's.

I recall the Jerry's Back shows and how he couldn't be as good as before.

BULL SHIT, In the words of David Byrne "Same as it ever was!"

I guess my point is, nothing stays the same. Nothing. One of the things I admired about our tribe is that we know how to roll with the punches that life deals us.

In short, no one could replace Jerry. No one replaced Pig. The band changed. We have changed. I believe that Jerry would want the Grateful Dead to remain "Good Ole'". I thing he would want the Grateful Dead to be bigger than any one person. When dosing, I often pondered about when the certain would occur and thought that it would be great to bring in new talent, which means new influences to the music and keep it going forever.

It still hurts. I have seen weddings, good and great times, and only one punch thrown in the 18 years I toured (Memphis 95 - somebody popped someone eles's balloon, accidently). I always relished in the enjoyment of taking some white collars to a show and having them leave as converts.

Bobby, Phil, Mickey, Vince, and Billy - If these words get to you, people love you guys. Your work and art changed the man I became. Become mentors to a phase.

Lets shed the skin and grow!

going faster and getting rounder

Mark A. Landers


LET IT GROW!!!! The GD IS alive (though perhaps still mourning) whether your consciousness can accept it or not... - Jenny Jervis, Rome, GA (DschPan@AOL.COM (Guest))

Having been around the GD since the very early days, I must say that WE are part and parcel of the GD...there has been much conjecture over "What JG would've wanted..." but frankly, friends, loved ones, wasn't the MUSIC the THING to JG????? Was his ego and personae the only thing going in this wonderous traveling medicine show (and I mean in a shamanistic manner). Those of you who say "It's over." must not really grasp what has been going on for the last several decades...Hunter said in his lovely letter to JG of 8/6/96 that they collectively had "carved out a piece of Americana" during the last thirty ODD years...think of this, if you will...the art of storytelling, the passing from one generation to another the vast storehouse of bizarre experience and life we call the GD....this is bigger than even the big man, himself...Hunter was so right-on because I taught some of our French DH family about the nature of American musical roots and how the GD personified the very essence of the roots, growth, changes....and if there is essence...there IS existence, kids...it may be YOUR limitation to be unable or unwilling to experience it, but, it none-the-less thrives...the MUSIC WILL OUT LIVE US ALL, mercifully.

Those of you who say "it's over" must not need the connection to the spirit which the GD is for our family. We've spent the last thirty years literally teaching GD traditions, rituals, songs, poems, art, lore, and so on because the value is this: real family values...real connection to a spiritual center in ourselves and our families which is expressed and spurred by the MUSIC. Have you listened to the band??? Have you experienced Space and Drums??? Have you heard Phil sing??? Have you listened to Bobby's guitar playing lately??? (He's a really accomplished musician and a fine, fine original guitarist. Have you ever seen BRH outside the Dead context? (No offense to Vince, for he seems like a true heart, but there's some connection with Bruce which goes further back...a natural, possibly ordained connection which makes it seem like he's always been there.)

These seeds were sown long ago because there were those with vision who took the steps to ensure that this whole living entity would be eternal, have eternal life...that this thing would be about the future as well as living in the present moment, the NOW. Kesey said we all KNEW (espitemologically and ontologically speaking) what we should DO after JG's passing ...FURTHUR should've been a clue, folks. This delightful thing the Boyz from Marin dreamed one afternoon long ago is still with us. Bobby, on this tour, sings a soulful "Masterpiece" and I say to myself, "Well, WE've created this amazing, crazy MASTERPEACE thing over the years together...a true masterpiece of FREE FORM LIFE...and you have the audacity to pronounce it over???

It's time to grab Billy and Phil and Bruce and Mickey and Bobby and Hunter and PLAY THIS MASTERPIECE WHICH HAS BEEN CREATED FOR US/WITH US...I was fortunate enough to see the Grateful Dead live with Jerry Garcia for many a life-altering "show"...so, tell me, are we all supposed to deny this PILGRIMAGE of LIFE because Jerry crossed over? How arrogant of those of you who think we have any choice. How ignorant of those of you who choose to spread rumours of the the death of the living, breathing organism (GD) of which I sing to my family daily. How dare you fuck with our spirituality. I am presently having to use our public library's Internet because of probs with AOL, but you may respond to me if you have the courage by regular mail. Address responses to Jenny Jervis, Forrest Building, Suite 105, 436 Broad Street,Rome, GA 30161. I will reply. Please consider my pleas...with love and respect and some anger...but always with blessings to include all, to exclude none, Jenny. P.S. Michael Houser is the only guitarist I would invite to occasionally sit in with the GD, regardless of what the band calls itself...he's a gentle man and one very respectful, fine musician who would never assume or presume to take JG's place (as no one could).


Damn everything but the circus. e.e. cummings - John Angus (jangus@asis.com)

I attended the Golden Gate Park Memorial as well as countless shows from 1973 through 1995. Planet Earth and its people need a machine to help them get to where they're going. The Grateful Dead have been that machine. On that day in Golden Gate Park I witnessed yet another chapter in the phenomenon in that these shows have gotten so hugh over the years both inside and out, it really doesn't matter if the band is up there playing live or from a Maxell cassette. As soon as the ceremony/memorial was finished, they popped a tape in of some highlighted shows over the years. For the first three or four songs, it seemed disrespectful and out of context in some ways. But I've gotta tell you, when Scarlet Fire kicked in, it really didn't matter. People fell right back into that groove again so naturally. The stage was colorful, the towers of speakers bolted out that sound of that machine almost as if he came back for one last encore. It was during that Fire on the Mountain that I thought to myself, they could keep doing this, very easily, people would come and have a great experience. So often we were too high or too far from the stage (in the bar watching them on video screens) to see the band members anyway. I say as long as it sounds good, I'm there! Tribal gathering is what its all about anyway. I say go for it. The band members themselves can finally have a choice to go to the show or not. All of the later shows were video taped and recorded digitally anyway. Syncronize it, make holograms of the members, play some of the outstanding shows. Think about it, everyshow's a winner, the tribe grows at a much faster pace. It's kinda like growing plants indoors under artificial light. Plenty of those kids out there were smoking artificially grown buds. Why not give them artificial Grateful Dead? The party must go on. I miss Jerry, I miss the scene. We can't ever have Jerry again, but the "scene" is still very much within our reach. I important stipulation to this concept which I hope wouldn't get overlooked. Never play two cities on the same night. Damn everything else but the circus!


The tradition will continue no matter what the band does - Don Wolfe (dvswolfe@aol.com)

I'd love more than anything else to have another chance at the bliss of a real Dead show. There's no question, if the remaining menbers of the band played within my reach, that I would go to the show. But even if they don't, the vast spiritual energy of the Deadheads will find a home. Neighbors in my town have complained that the nightly drum circles in the park that started the day Garcia died haven't quit yet. You know our love will not fade away. The problem with putting someone new in the lead guitar spot is that they have to have the talent and breadth of musical knowledge to handle the Grateful Dead repertoire, and the ability to improvise with people who have been together for 30 years, plus the humility not to be an ego-driven star, and the strength to stand up to the unforgiving scrutiny of millions of doubting fans and even the other members of the band. There aren't many people in any sphere of endeavor who can meet all those qualifications. The musical equivalent of Jackie Robinson. And if they fall short, do they deserve the pain that will come from disappointing all of us who have been spoiled by Garcia? It would probably be better for everyone if the same fire were kindled in a new place, in some other part of the musical/spiritual world, rather than try to revive the embers of the Grateful Dead. Let the love and devotion of the Deadheads wash over the entire musical world and germinate new seeds in places we haven't thought of yet.


The Dead and Continuing - Jim Wilson (thrtyrs@aol.com)

Reading through the various comments and opinions posted, the common thread hanging is, "Why add one more?" Well, here's the one more (probably one of many `one more's' down the road). The Dead, as I grew to love,and know it, no longer exists (in a live music apsect). This fact is black and white. No questions asked. I guess the real question is whether Phil, Bobby, Mickey, Vince and (if he wants to leave Hawaii) Bill, should form again into some sort of group. First, that's their decision. They've done this from 5 to 30 years. They know what they want to do. I remember a quote from Dick Latvala, "No member of the Grateful Dead is a Deadhead." This gives them a different perspective than us. They played, we danced. They got lots (and lots) of money, we have the memories and the vibes. They became at times, complacent and unbending. We forgave and knew that there was a next show, tour, year; decade. These guys are professionals, they're not minor deities. The group took on its' own form, something no "outsider" will never understand. The choice is theirs. It seems as though the moniker, "Grateful Dead", was buried last December 1995. It supposedly is gone, and it ain't never coming back. Therefore, secondly. I feel that there is more than an adequate audience if the former members of the Grateful Dead decided to get back together. Sure, there is no way to replace Jerry, I don't think they would attempt to do such a thing. No more than they tried to "replace" Pigpen or Brent. The band took a different turn when one of its' members took the long road (and oftentime, a painful one) home. The band thought it was best to continue. To play on. Each new turn provided us with a diferent view of the Dead. Some folks prefer one "era" to the other. I prefer to look at the whole experience, from 1965 to 1995, as the Grateful Dead experience. This is over. Yet, we love the music. We love the attempts of former members of the Grateful Dead to bring life to the notes, the words and the riffs. It was always pleasing and fulfilling. It was powerful. I don't think that if the guys said, "Let's do a `Formerly the Warlocks' thing.", many people would say, "Forget it. I'm not going to allow the music to evolve in my presence. I just won't go." There would be people, there would be mistakes, there would be shining moments of wonder; and I'd be there. So, thirdly (and finally). Would a "new Grateful Dead" be viable? Take the members of Kiss, for example. A few guys were down on their luck, so, "Let's have a reunion tour." Lots of money, but for what? So a bunch of older "teens" who remember the glory days can capture the Kodak moments of years gone by? I wouldn't want a Dead reunion to be like this. It would be great if the guys said, "Let's keep our `side' projects and get together again." Maybe the tours would only be Summer and Winter. Maybe only one, long Summer Tour. Whatever. There are many aspects of the GD organization which "profitted" from the band's playing. These organizations/charity arms need a boost. Maybe the "boost" should not be relegated to a Dead reunion, but rather for Heads to throw a little dough their way. Maybe each of us could contribute the cost of a ticket to one of the Dead's charities? Mmmmmm, isn't tha the way it should be. Then the band members wouldn't have to say, "We need the money, so let's do it again." They could rather go for it for the love of the scene and the music. Yeh, I think they should try something together. Hey, I'd go. Wouldn't you?


Don't stop now. - Chris Powers (cp597@bard.edu)

The Dead have always been known as the band that would tour forever, but now that the leader of the pack is gone from us where do we go, which path would be best to travel down. I purpose that they continue on until the last sunset. I had the privilage of seeing Rat Dog this summer as I am sure some of you did also. I would have to say that it was a wonderful performance and while not the dead, still the dead. The flavor and excitement were still there and it is just one more journey for us to follow. So while this may be a shift of gears life moves on and no ones knows where it will lead us. Therefore let us go in happiness and friendship.


Lost -n- Lonesome - Heather "Little Wing" Anderson (kma@warwick.net)

Please please please help me to understand.... I miss Jerry. I never was graced to see him live with the dead. Since his death I have felt an incredible loss. When the Further Fest swept through New Haven I was determined to go, unfortunatly a loss of a family member kept me from that. I wish I knew where I could find all of my brothers and sisters, I geuss I'll just keep looking for you in my wanderings.... It's awfully lonely out here when all you have is a thousand live shows on tape and a good collection of Scarlet/fire's. I wish I had gotten on the bus earlier, Maybe then I would have more of an opinion, but I dont. We all need to get together again.... and how can we be a part of each other in person if the dead aint truckin?


Let it grow!! - Aaron Erpel (ace2@lehigh.edu)

The top priority of the band is to do what they want to be/feel comfortable doing. But I once heard a statement shortly after Jerry's death that went something like "I always wanted America to be known as the place were anyone can grow up and become a member of the Grateful Dead." This is a very interesting statemen to say the least. I think it could work if it was done right.


The Dead are gone for ever - E. Daniel Reinhard III (ereinha1@gmu.edu)

I think the members left should be a band; however, there is no replacing Jerry. I think that they should try to find a good improvisational guitarist to join them. The rumors I heard about Santana joining would be great, but he has a career of his own. They should find themselves a good guitarist and consider going on as the Warlocks.


Forum subjekt no 3 - magnus dybeck (magnus.dybeck@nynashamn.se)

grateful dead can continue grateful dead should continue jerry can not be replaced by a single person nothing will ever be the same but it can be just as fine the name can not be changed search for talented gentle songwriters/singers/guitarplayers of relatively young age to build and secure a smooth transition in to the second generation grateful dead


I SAY GO FOR IT! - ROAD RAT (rrat@hotmail.com)

Sure the fat man is gone gone gone but that dosn't mean the rest of the guys can't on with the show. By the way, that's what i hear is going to happen this spring. Word is they will possibly tour with Los Lobos & Carlos Santanna, i'm trying to get comformation on this. If any one can tell me yes or no on that, please e-mail me a.s.a.p. 11/17/1996 ps: If it's true, this is one squatter punk that will definatly go, i'll be vending hair wraps & shwilling.


NO F@#$%^& Way!! - Janine Dixson (nener@bigfoot.com)

THe Dead can't continue w/o Jerry things just would never be the same.


We want Phil! - Christopher Lull (crcl@ix.netcom.com)

Let face it, things will never be the same now that Jerry is gone. That being said, imagine, if you will, a week or so of early August starting on the 1st and ending on the 9th with four shows at the Greek and four at Frost. Now picture a line up that looked something like this

Bass & Vocals- Phil Keyboards- Bruce Hornsby Horns- Winton and Branford Marsalis, Martin Fierro Drums- Mickey and Billy Guitar- Bob Weir and Steve Kimock Vocals- Edie Brickell

Now tell me you'd turn down a show like that. I'll be in line for tickets if anyone needs to find me.

8.1.97 Greek-

Box of Rain Music Stranger Tom Thumb Catalina Masterpiece Lost Sailor> Saint of Cirumstance Don't Ease

Unbroken Samson> Playin'> Eyes of the World Jam> Mind Left Body Jam> Drums > Space Dark Star Jam> Other One> Truckin'> NFA Around & round

E: Satisfaction


I feel that they should not tour. - Ken Hopson (ken.hopson@2die4.com)

I feel that the band should not continue touring. There is no possible way to replace Jerry Garcia. No artist could ever do what he did, or imitate it. Lets just move on, and grow as individuals in our own ways. There are many more great bands touring right now! Check them out. Peace.


GD should continue - Randy Blecher (knicksyanks@worldnet.att.net)

I think that the Grateful Dead should continue. Although no person could ever replace(substitute as an equal)Jerry in the band. But I am definitely sure that great musicians would want to join the band at least on a temporary basis and jam with the best jam band ever. Some people might think that Bruce Hornsby could replace Jerry. Although Bruce is an excellent musician in his own right, it is simply not possible for that to ever happen. The main reason why I think the should continue to tour is that some fans never got to see a show(like myself). I was too young at the time, and wasn't really into their music. It has been proven that a band can lose an important member and go on. For example, the Jerry Garcia Band. I would like to thank this forum for letting me voice my opinion.


Give it a go, guys! - Rob Wendt (shirefolk@aol.com)

Why shouldn't the Dead continue, if the remaining members are willing (not only to tour and record but to maintain the organization of their huge business enterprise)? Other defunct bands whose members have reunited in some capacity are the Beatles (George working on John's Imagine, Ringo on George's Cloud Nine), Jane's Addiction, and the Sex Pistols. Besides, with all due respect, much of the end of Jerry's career was spent in a heroin-induced stupor, which Mickey Hart has called "irreverent" and "bad form". Jerry never took it upon himself to be a rock demagogue - it wasn't his style. So let's not let the Dead's legacy depend on his death, but rather on the continuing lives of the rest of the bunch.


They don't need a lead guitar player, they're all fine musicians: - Help>Slip!>Frank (lasky@bucknell.edu)

Here's the story and the lineup: While I don't expect it to happen soon, the band will play together sometime before the millenium. They will definitely play a New Year's show at the Oakland Coliseum on 12/31/99 in memorium to Bill Graham and Jer. They will not go by the name 'Grateful Dead'. Except for the Oakland Coliseum show they will play smaller venues and they will not tour regularly.

Bill & Mickey: Drums Phil: Bass Vince: Keyboards Bruce: Piano & Keyboards Bobby: Guitar

Special Guests are always welcome. Repetoire and Show Format will be different of course. Peace and Paradise,


They don't need a lead guitar player, they're all fine musicians: - Help>Slip!>Frank (lasky@bucknell.edu)

Here's the story and the lineup: While I don't expect it to happen soon, the band will play together sometime before the millenium. They will definitely play a New Year's show at the Oakland Coliseum on 12/31/99 in memorium to Bill Graham and Jer. They will not go by the name 'Grateful Dead'. Except for the Oakland Coliseum show they will play smaller venues and they will not tour regularly.

Bill & Mickey: Drums Phil: Bass Vince: Keyboards Bruce: Piano & Keyboards Bobby: Guitar

Special Guests are always welcome. Repetoire and Show Format will be different of course. Peace and Paradise,


JAM ON! - Jessea Sharkey (dsharkey@vitinc.com)

I think the Dead could and should continue to tour. No one ever could replace Jerry and no one should ever try but why disregard the talent of the rest of the band. As far as changing the name of the band -- Who cares? I'd go see them no matter what thier name was. The Dead played to unite people with thier music and if the music plays (with or without Jerry) that unity will and should exist.


Oh, please tell me it is so!!!! - R.J.L. (luba7275@rowan.edu)

The other day (3-5-97), I heard a rumor that the guys may start touring again with Carlos Santanna playing lead guitar. My hopes are soaring! I am so desperately excited over the thought of getting a second chance to follow the Dead, and will be totally crushed if the rumor turns out to false. If anyone has any idea if my dream can can come true, please let me know asap. And if it is true, I'll also be needing a VW Bus or other suitable vehicle. I hope to see all of you soon!!!!


How Could They Replace The Best??????? - Pasqua (paspal@k2nesoft.com)

I don't think they should try to continue.How do you replace "THE MAN"????The Dead have lived a long and prosperous carreer .Most bands can only dream of doing what they have done....29 Years is as long as I've been alive.Most bands are lucky to last a quarter of that.Let the Dead be Dead.They should however continue making music together but not as the Grateful Dead.I remember the first show I ever went to .Jerry just blew my mind into another world. It was like heaven here on Earth.(or somewhere) . gotta run RIP JERRY !!!!!


The darkness had to give...... - David Kir (djkst42+@pitt.edu)

Shows Ruled !! But now... life grows on and lots of people had to grow up...myself included. I saw the Phoenix '94 JGB show w/Jer leaving the stage after set 1 with "the flu". Man walking dead, man. I missed all of 95 but the pittsburgh show. Evidently, this was one of the FEW tragedy-free shows of that tour, with an INCREDIBLE rain-god invocation starting off set 2. I've seen lots of shows & journeyed many dimensions & miles for the love of the music. One of my most joyful experiences on earth was set 2, pittsburg '95 (the compass always points...) BUT, its all over now..."I told ya' once an' I told ya' twice..." My point is that its over & I hate it as much as anyone. I went to RatDog/Further & things were too much for me to handle. I bawled my eyes out all over the lot after the show upon hearing a subdued FOTD drifting thru the jets of nitrous tanks...BUT, another important point...all this energy has to go (and END UP) somewhere. Something WILL occur, but it won't be a "Dead" tour!! LUV U ALL up...including myself. I knew it was over in Phoenix '94 JGB...after the first set's extraordinarily long intermission, someone on stage comes out to announce the sho's off because Jerry's come down with the "flu". From that moment on, it was like, it's not gonna last much longer & so I APPRECIATED the shows I could catch until "IT" happened. One of the MOST JOY-FILLED spaces of my life came in Pittsburgh, summer r '95 with the second set rain - god invocation. Copious ammounts of joy...(& the compass always points...) BUT for real, its all over now and we can't go back - and we can't stand still... the energy WILL go somewhere after its been assimilated & understood ... but never, ever, will it manifest as "The Grateful Dead". It would be somehow sacrilegious & I feel most would agree... ain't no fillin' the fat man's shoes, no way, no how, not ever. I'd love to see the boys together, as anyone would, but it'll never be the same. And how would they handle songs? I mean, fer real, we might get truckin'...but will we REALLY be TRUCKIN'? I went to Further & couldn't handle it. After the show, walkin' thru the lot I heard a FOTD on someone's car stereo eeking its way thru the blasts of nitrous & I just lost my stuff. I went to shows with 90% of my heart in Jerry's hands...for that song or that note or whatever...and I got it...and so did lots of other people ...we were blessed..& we NOT fade away...ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!


All good things must come to an end - Jack Straw (cmch1234@ms13.hinet)

All good things must come to and end... and rightfully so,what should we do hang on and force the last dying decrepid member to continue playing the same old tunes? Granted it was grate while it lasted but as I recall Jerry once said toward the end that he was tired of playing with the Dead and would have prefered to do other projects but too many people were depending on him for a living. Any musician or artist out there would agree that forced creativity or being forced to play is about as fulfilling as a root canal and equally as painful. I'm not saying that Jerry didn't enjoy playing right up till the end but we all knew it would end someday and someday is here so chin up,deal with it and let the survivors do as they will signed, A reformed Deadhead


let it grow - beth (beth@bluemoon.net)

let it grow into something new. You can't bring back the Dead, don't even try. Go on to the next stage.

The natural order of the universe is change ;)


They should have planned for this before Jerry died. - cooper (cooper@electricvillage.com)

I always felt the Dead should have started using more opening acts on tour, to give it a Furthur Festival atmosphere with the Dead as the headliner. That way the Dead could have eventually backed out without losing the consistency of the show. The openers would continue touring as the Further Festival ad infinitum, adding new acts whenever one drops out. As it is now, the Further Festival won't go on forever since most of the acts are aging anyway. get Zero in there! Stackabones! David Nelson Band! The Radiators! Even Phish!


I think that The Grateful Dead should keep touring. - Julie (Julsar1@aol.com)

I think that The Dead should keep touring. Although I agree to the fact that Jerry was "the heart of the band," I do also believe that Jerry wouldn't have wanted the music to stop on his account. I believe that he would be miserable knowing that the music stopped because of him. I think that it would be more of an honor, than a disgrace to his memory. He, of all people, would not want us grieving his passing by ending the concerts. Jerry said...."If you get confused, listen to the music play." How can we now? Sure, we can listen to tapes, but we can all agree that the only way to truly "feel" the music is to hear it live. I want to dance and shake my bones again!!


The sky was yellow and the sun was blue - Wharf Rat (altlaw@asupernet.com)

I think that all of life is an evolution, one that means each life form constantly changes and evolves in it's own way. The Dead are no different, when Pig died, the band went from a acid blues band to something more country, and then when Keith and Donna left and Brent joined, it again evolved, same with Vince. I've been going to Dead, Bobby and the Midnights and Jerry Band shows since 1978 and, to tell you the truth, most of the shows in the 90's were weak. Every day is a Dead day in our house, with tapes being played from 1966-87, so to me, my best memories are of the days when Jerry had his voice and chops down cold. The Dead are in all of our heads and the way we live our lives, just like when they were touring. Considering I'd see 4-7 shows a year, this meant that for 340+ days a year, the tunes all hummed in my brain. But the 90's were no fun, tickets were a hassle and the crowds were too big and had grown into a monster. Despite that, I still went to a lot of shows. So, to sum up, the Dead are over and they're not. It all depends on your perspective. But there are lots of other guitar players out there who play in the "Jerry" style and could fit in quite nicely. I guess it's really up to the band. But for me, I'm totally satisfied with my family, memories, friends and tapes. Party on.


The Grateful Dead Will Never be the Same - Ryan (captain_trips_@hotmail.com)

I agree the band itself should still tour, but only in memory of our beloved Jerry. The group itself could never play to its full ability without Jerry. Though everyone says that they should replace Jerry, I for one think that's dumb. You cannot replace a man who comitted his life to making the community a happier place, who devoted his every minute to making people happy.

I also think that without Jerry, the rest of the group wouldn't be as inspired and maynot preform to their best capabilites, however this is only a thought.

So if the Gratefu Dead was to keep on playing, I think it would be good too keep up with Robert Hunters lyrics. Robert Hunter devoted his time to writing inspiring lyrics and touching the heart's of many deadheads

It really doesn't matter to me, THE DEAD WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN!


the band must continue without jerry... they must - peter bixby (ahernvt@juno.com)

I really miss a grateful dead concert, even a sloppy one. Without Jerry there is no


the band must continue without jerry... they must - peter bixby (ahernvt@juno.com)

I really miss a grateful dead concert, even a sloppy one. Without Jerry there is no Dead, but I can't help but miss the others. We all know there were nights when Phil took over on lead bass, and it was just as incredible as when he and Jerry were making it happen in a team way. I say that they can do it without any replacement guitar player, or even Jerrys songs. On a hot night it didn't matter what song they played, because the flow takes over and the Dead become the living vehical for the flow. I thank you for reading my opinion, and I hope to donate more. Later-Bye


the band must continue without jerry... they must - peter bixby (ahernvt@juno.com)

I really miss a grateful dead concert, even a sloppy one. Without Jerry there is no Dead, but I can't help but miss the others. We all know there were nights when Phil took over on lead bass, and it was just as incredible as when he and Jerry were making it happen in a team way. I say that they can do it without any replacement guitar player, or even Jerrys songs. On a hot night it didn't matter what song they played, because the flow takes over and the Dead become the living vehical for the flow. I thank you for reading my opinion, and I hope to donate more. Later-Bye


The Flame Still Burns. Jerry's gone but the Dead must live. - Patti Lord (patlord@eces.org.eg)

I'm still tore up over Jerry, as I know you are. I guess we always will be. He was fabulous and unique, and I continue to thank the Force that he was here. I revere him in an inexplicable way. In this forum, I know I don't have to elaborate on this. But he was not the whole of the Dead, and I want the show to go on in any way it can. I went to the Further Festival in Irvine in 1996, and it was grand. In fact, it was a great comfort to me, a great reaffirmation. Frankly, I think that anyone who does not want the Dead to carry on without Jerry has missed the point. We should endeavor to keep it all alive, however we can. I would welcome and support anything any of the Dead family does, together, in joint ventures, new regroupings, as well as separately. But of course, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and the closer they appear in the original format, the better, the far far better. The void(!) left by Jerry's departure cannot be filled, but it can workably be reduced or diffused if the family has the will to let the show go on. I don't know enough about the music scene to be of much help in suggesting someone to be lead guitarist (at the very least) for the band. Mark Knopfler comes to mind, because of his talent, love of country music and rock'n'roll, among other things. He seems from a distance to be hip and in the groove, but I don't know enough about him to be sure. If the band does carry on, perhaps the name could be modified, but I wouldn't like to see an altogether different name. To summarize, I don't see why the show shouldn't go on. I mourn Jerry while I have to accept his departure. Death don't have no mercy. It doesn't mean, however, that the Dead can't live. We all know that if you put those guys up on a stage together--Bobby, Phil, Bill, Mickey, one of their fabulous keyboardists, and any other musicians of their choice--we would all be right there with them, we'd be right back in the zone and Jerry would be there too somehow. So how could anyone say that it's not the Grateful Dead, and that it shouldn't be? I hope this debate is still ongoing. I only found this site lately! Thank you for your efforts to keep the spirit alive. I'll be talking to you again soon! All the very best to all of you. Patti


The Grateful Airplane - Mark Stephens (buds@io.com)

Basically, what we need is to get a guitarist who can play with the Dead but who also has the lysergic "energy" of growing up in San Fran in the 1960s. To me, this can only be Jorma. When he joins the band, the strands of magic energy that began to be spun into musical fabric as the bands headlined together in the 60s will entertwine into a new tapestry of special energy. We can call the new band the "Grateful Airplane." and when they tour, high consciousness will again be seen in America.

Remember Jerry

ms


Should the Dead tour as the Dead - Dustin Roe (roed@coral.indstate.edu)

This is something that I never really put much thought into, untill last month when I went out to see the Further Fest at Deer Creek. The show was rolling along slowly, then to the suprise of everyone (I think), the name Robert Hunter was announced as the next performer. He came on and beautifuly sang Mr. Charlie, Days Between, Down the Road, Terrapin Station, and one more that just now got away from me. Anyway, it was so magical (especialy Days Between), and so perfect, and I started thinking, what if Phil and the rest of the boys were up there baking him up? THAT would be the band called the Grateful Dead that I would go see.

Dustin Roe


Why the hel SHOULDN'T the Dead tour? - Walter Five (walter5@brewich.com)

Well? Why the hel not? It's not as if there's a shortage of "pick-up" guitarists and musicians to fill in with the boys--Carlos Santana, Bob Dylan, Dickey Betts, Country Joe, Elvin Bishop, Jorma, man, the list of "friends of the band" just goes on and on! We carried on without the Pig, we carried on when T.C. left, when Keith & Donna left, when Mickey left there for a while, without Brent...now perhaps they'd want to ressurrect another line-up, like Ace, or Kingfish,or Mickey and the Hartbeats, perhaps as the Bob Weir Band, or Intrepid Trips Inc. for that matter!!! Fact of the matter is, the music needs to be played, and the message still needs to be spread!

...keep on playin' in the band!


Peace through music - Greyson (gmurdoff@gladstone.uoregon.edu)

I think the remaining members of the Dead should do what it is they feel is best. My one request is that they continue to reach out to people with their music: don't stop those feet from tappin' and those hearts from thumpin'! It would also be nice if they (the "living Dead") would throw open the doors to the vault and release a flood of history... but that's another story. Peace.


The Grateful Dead could tour again - Brian Lundquist (lb1488@wheeler.northland.edu)

The Dead could tour again and it would by fine by me. The crutial point is that Jerry could never be replaced. His lead guitar was the glue that held together the dead's greatest moments, and he was often the catalist for truly epic musical moments. The dead could tour again without Jerry, but they would be essentially a completely different band. It would be similar to the musical changes the dead went through after Pigpen's death, but much more extreme. I'd be interested to see what the new chemistry of the band would be like, but, cause I'm a big Jerry fan, I probably wouldn't like it as much.


Going with the flow..... - Tammy Swartzwelder (Bssgrl@aol.com)

The death of Jerry has made us all contemplate whether or not the Grateful Dead could or should go on, but let's remember a few things from our history of the band, although Jerry became the main influential figure of the band, it was not always that way. In fact it was Pigpen who was essentially the leader in the beginning. What it really boils down to is that the magic of this band was reliant upon the ability to face any variety of situations and react upon them in no way that any other group of people could consistently. I feel that as long as the players have the want and desire to continue to perform that they should do so, there cannot be anyone who can "replace" Jerry, he was too special in many ways, but there are people who can fill the void that he has left behind to all of us.The one person that I personally feel that could accomplish this difficult task would be Jorma, he is a musician's musician. And as far as what they would or should call themselves well who would really care if it were to happen? It would just be great to be back together again!


Giong With The Flow......... (continued) - Tammy Swartzwelder (Bssgrl@aol.com)

The only person I feel that could fill the void that has been left behind is Jorma, He's a musician's musician. And as far as what they should call themselves... well who really cares, as long as they're playing that's all that really matters!


Robert Hunter with the boys on New Years' 1999 - Albion M. Butters (amb103@columbia.edu)

Regarding whether the band should tour? How could the Grateful Dead even hope to tour without Jerry? I, for one, do not subscribe to the consensus reality that he is really gone. This is a multi-layered onion/paradox, of course, but in the stolen face of shows meeting dream, there is no doubt that Dead shows retain (even through tapes) an alchemical quality as regards our collective relationship with old Mr. Death.

As for a very special show here and there, there is one person that actually COULD give the proper tone to songs we have come to know as only Jerry could give. That, of course, is Robert Hunter. I love his solo shows, where the songs are full of the flavor which makes them magic. And Bob can CERTAINLY play lead! He only had a master-teacher for 30 years. Just a humble suggestion...


It would be very "closed minded" to think that the Dead couldn't continue - Quicksand (gbpkrs1@bellsouth.net)

Over the course of time many members of the Grateful Dead have passed onto a higher form of conciseness. "The Band Played On." Out of respect for Jerry maybe they should change the name of the band, but the music should never stop!! How about calling the new band "Dark Star."

Do it for Jerry !


Jerry wouldn't have left us if we weren't ready - Dave Scinto (DScinto@Compuserve.com)

It was all about the confluence of energies, whirling in the universe, forming, unforming, reforming and shooting off into a thousand directions at once. Was it a band? Was it a show? Or was it just WAS? Like all moments, it's gone and will never be back, but also will never be like the moments to come. Forms change, bands change, names change, people change, but he Dead and Jerry are now stuck like flies in amber, existing only in memory and recorded sounds of the past, dead history, Dead history. Time to move. Time to go on. Time to remember never to forget. Thanx boyz. See ya somewhere else....


Maybe The Boys Should Give It One More Final Shot... - Kyle Kubiak (klausiien@warwick.net)

To be completely honest, I unfortunately never got to a dead show. I saw my first show of any kind (a Phish show)in '95. I wish that I never saw that show , so I could have hit the Giants Stadium show that year. I am forever saddened by missing my chance, so here is what I think the boys should do:

Furthur is great, but it is not the Dead. The chemisty of the players is different and not as satisfying. Sure Bobby and Mickey are there and Phil shows up in CA, but I want the real deal. We all do.

The Dead should reform for one tour to close the door. To clean the wounds. To show us that they really can't go on without the Master. They should put someone like David Grisman in the lead spot, but keep the ideal of Jerry alive and well. Bring Hornsby back. Put Phil in the spotlight as a true lead player. Make Bobby the showman again. And the Rhythm devils... rock solid as always. I really think Grisman could do it the most justice. He is a bluegrass player like Jerry. They shared so many musical treasures together. He is the man, with his little mandolin, who could do the most justice. He is part of the family and should sub for one last tour.

No on could ever replace Jerry. That is not what we want anyway. We want to see those men return to the stage to blow our minds while they still can. And I feel they still can. After all... they have Phil.


Absolutely Not!! - Richard Barrett (barrett-@webtv.net)

Not that it would matter if the "Dead" did tour again. The magic is over. The Grateful Dead without Jerry Garcia is like an Elvis concert without Elvis.


Yes....No....Maybe....But here's an idea! - Canyon Rick (Nankoweap@yahoo.com)

If the rest of the band want to do some shows, I'd definitely go see 'em! They were always there for us, so I'd be there for them, if they chose to continue. They still have a lot of music to make. BUT,no! there's no way they could go on as if nothing had happened. SO---here's my idea for maybe a few shows: A lot of good ideas have been advanced (Dylan, Santana, etc), but I'd like to hear Willie Nelson do a few shows sometime. Wouldn't Candyman, Dire Wolf, Must Have Been the Roses, etc. sound fantastic?! Sure--not all the songs would work; and not all of Willie's songs would be right either. But, he's someone with the right temperment, the right lifestyle (!), and the right voice. Think about it!!


We Will Survive! - Rose (rose@pcmagic.net)

Hey now!! What do you mean the show's over? After reading a number of responses to this question i am shocked to see so many deadheads respond in such a negative and pessimistic way to evolution!!! What happened to we will survive?? We used to stand strong against a world of corruption, of greed, hatred and war..And now, our father has gone to a better place, and we give that love and laughter up? Madness, i say!! Don't you want to go to a show? Everytime i play a kind tape from a show i am itching to jsut take off and find where all the brothers and sisters have gone. Evolution is a natural part of life...Our friends and family have suffered, some have passed away, but we hold strong - we unite across the world, millions strong in the name of love, laughter, music, trust! Who is to say that the proposed progression of the dead the other one, couldn't lift us from this place of sorrow and pessimism? I say why not!!! To everyone who doubts the continuation of happiness and the shows. Maybe something better or different may evolve - you never know who or what may be inspired if given a chance. Bobby has the ability to make this transformation - he has the gift of lovex, he just has to roll away, the dew!! Any kind people want to keep the music playing, e-mail me - we will survive. Love and peace, rose


The show must go on... - Candace (tela8221@aol.com)

When Jerry first passed on, my initial reaction (as many others felt) was that it was the end of the road for the music we so adored. But with time healing the wounds, I have an increasing urge to revisit the happiness of a spectacular show. Of course, without Jerry, it would not be a Grateful Dead show in its entirety, but I am all for the remaining members to continue on under a different name. This, I have read, will be the case in the summer coming.

I initially feared the let-down of a show not quite Dead Style, but I have enjoyed many other Dead tunes on which Jerry was not lead throughout the years and feel as though these songs could make for a great show all on their own. My fiance was not fortunate enough to have been introduced to the Dead before it was too late, but I would love to take him to a show with the remaining members just so he could get a taste of the life I loved. I am looking forward to a tour, a long-awaited reawakening of the Dead spirit.


FORGE ON!!!!!!! - Michael Wagner (mwagner@pacbell.net)

They shouldn't have missed a beat in '95: they should have and should continue on. How many shows did you see that Bobby carried? Jerry wasn't on board a lot of the time since about, what, 89? 90? Grab Henry Kaiser, that Billy Joel clone with the grand p(Hornsby), Kimmock, fucking go for it. Don't even consider stopping. But train some apprentices, willya???


Furthur 98 - Gandalf (JoshWeil@aol.com)

Well, Ive just seen three Other Ones shows, and am going to see one tomorow, and I must say that I am suitably impressed. Is it the same w/out Jerry? of course not. But it is very, very good. So definately, keep on keepin on, boys


The Dead will always be...Jerry would'a wanted it that way. - Raymond Murray (murrayr@norwich.edu)

The Grateful Dead, as a band, should not spilt and stop touring because of the death of their mislabled frontman. Now don't get me wrong, I love & miss Jerry the same as you folks reading this, but to say the Grateful Dead should cease to be because of his death is something i can't just grip. Jerry, as we all know, lived for the music and the pleasure it brought. I'm sure, beyond any doubt, that he would have demanded that the Grateful Dead "keep on Truckin" in the event something happend to him. As with the death of Pigpen, the Dead should lace up their shoes and keep heading down that Golden Road. Seeing them play as the Other Ones this year brought back memories and friends of Dead Tours of the past. It was like nothing changed. The band played with an energy that took the breath and gave goose bumps to everyone in the crowd. Old friends were everywhere, at every show, and the lot crowd was still doing everything they could to find that perfect something...(somethings never change I guess)...So I hope the Dead keep bringing their thirty years of the best music, and good times to the best bunch of vegi-burrito selling, patchwork wearing, hemp tying family the world has ever seen. HAPPY TRAILS.......Ray Murray ****NOT FADE AWAY****


DO WHAT YOU KNOW BEST! - DAVE DUEWIGER (SPDRACR4@PRODIGY.NET)

11/26/98 Why change the bands name? Why not continue? WHY REALLY? Postions can be filled, but knowone can be replaced. If Jerry or Bob said the hell with it back when Pig Pen kicked it, there would not be the DEAD we all know today.After all it was Pig Pens band back then. They should have quit before they really got started.Perhaps they should have thrown the old towel in when Kieth G. bit it, or Brent. WHY GO ON ? This is what these very talented guys do for a living. This is what they do for life. They got there together ,not on Jerry's back. Lets not be so critical of the residual talent. They will make sure what you will hear will be good enough for those prejudice ears. Trust, have Faith. Jerry was great but, HE was not the Grateful Dead. The dead is . It's very similar to : If someone dies or leaves the N.Y. symphany orchestra, they get replaced. The BAND plays on. You will get comfortable again. Change is good. Great memories, lots of room for future adventure. SEE YA ON THE ROAD!


The Boys with out Jerry - Mark Benz...Syracuse Ny. (Hogan7@aol.com)

Of course they should Keep touring. Bruce Hornsby is phenomenal, and Bobby still sounds like an animal. Besides, it gives all of us Heads a chance to see each other with out having to pretend we're enjoying ourselves at a Phish show. The only problem I have with the Further Fest is that they play ( Although creative and at times inspirational ) certain Jerry tunes that should be left alone. No one has more respect and admiration for Bruce, but I think Scarlett, Wharf Rat, and Dark Star died with Jerry. Maybe I'm old fashioned but when I hear those 2nd Set nuggets all I can think of is where's Papa? Anyways, that's my take. God Bless all deadheads this holiday season, I may not know all of you, but your all family to me.

M.Benz...Syracuse NY


New Name, New Tunes would be great - Mike Bonella (organic@flinthills.com)

Although I greatly miss the Grateful Dead, I don't think the band should continue under the same name. I was at a couple of Further Fest shows this Summer. I felt really sad while I was there mainly because there was something/someone missing. It wasn't right to hear Bruce sing Jerry songs. (no offense Bruce, you are great). I would love to see shows where the band sang traditional Bob and Phil songs, and other new tunes. I don't feel that they should play many of Jerry's songs. It just isn't the same. Guest guitar players would be really cool, maybe Santana, or some other old school guys. I was so glad to see Phil again, and still miss Billy. Please Please Please let me complete my New Years 2000 wish of being at the show to bring in the new millenium. The best part of Further was Saint Steven, Well Done! Mike Bonella


ONLY IF....... - KIP (ROSSNKIP@BWAY.NET)

I belive we need one last hurah! Maybe a short run, maybe a whole tour but most importantly i think the only other folk that should even feel they can fill in should join only the original members(bruce included). Those being hunter, barlow,maybe branford and sittin in for the fat man, why his best bud of course david (dawg), the griss, grisman. I've heard him do jg rifs and such and if you just listen to him, he picks similar. He's got that same magical flow. He'd be the only one i could really see/hear. Check out new disc coming out hopefully this year by dawg's daughter gillian (gg) grisman. Talk about a reminscent flow. Heard a few tracks w/her dad. Those jams sent chills up my spine. Thought i fu*kin ghost of jerry at thier house, just leanin against the fridge. Spooky ya know.

But, as far as fronting as the dead, i think it to be a little too tabu. Dont you? When i heard the news that it was under consideration, i was stunned. Just stood there. I lost all composure. Starring in astonishment at a small group of associates. The silence lasted for at least 2 minutes. The worst of all, this leak came from a secure source. We were at a trade show in vegas of all places. They told me it was cause gdmerch. Was sliding in revenues and it would bolster some bucks.........Baffeled. The boys may have made some serious loot cakes throughout the years but were not founded on a business plan. Now do you think the band wants to go out under the gd name just for $$ or do you think theres some corperate connection. I don't think the boys gotta be the dead to do thier stuff.

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We Need the "Other Ones" - Jeffrey Halperin (halprino@hotmail.com)

Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to actually see the band rock the way I have heard them on tape soo many times. The "Other Ones" will give me a chance to see the other gifted members of the band. Jerry was absolutely my favourite guitarist, no question about it. However, I still LOVE all the other band members. I have never seen any of them play live. I would be able to see them now. The Grateful Dead are still the best band, with or without Jerry. I think they should change their name. You could argue and say band members have come and gone, which is true. But, out of respect for Jerry, they should change their name because they are definitely not the same band without him. I think they should play the same songs as before, with more covers and more freestyle jamming. There is never too much jamming. It is always nice to hear a really different cover. I could totally understand if the band stopped touring (although it would be horribly upsetting) since they have been doing it for thirty years. Although I really hope they come to Toronto soon. That's where I live and I don't know how much further I could go to see them. PLEASE COME.


ROCK ON - krista (sweetstuff4@hotmail.com)

I love the dead and i think that if they want to go on with out jerry then its there choice even if i think that jerry made the dead and ther know way even close to being the dead with out jerry . Iam 13 and have gon to more concerts then i can count that high me and jerrys girls were very good friends and so were my brothers and toro my dad worked with the dead so we went to so many shows it was amazing and i will never forget jerry or the dead . So peace love and rock on ferther

LOVE KRISTA SPRING


ALL in ALL......... - jc "sky" freeland (warlokman@hotmail.com)

So the Dead are no longer. Contrary to public worries, four year later and the family is still pretty much intact, and amazingly drawing more people to itself even in the band's absence. Were they ever here at all? It should be no surprise that the force that was "Jerry" was what held held this group of musicians together. By the same...er, toke:), it is only natural that any attempt by the remaining members to stay together was a valient, albeit futile endeavor. But it befuddlez me to hear some interpreting this as some sort of end to the magic they helped expose to us over 30 years. I think it is time for us all to return to our musical roots. We all know that Jerry had a widely varied taste for traditional "American" music, but also for stories, myths, fables and legends. His own ideas evolved from his rich knowlege of all these, seeing connections, and allowing it all to flow through him like water directly to us. I think the only way to touch upon this musical void some feel is to create a constantly changing gathering of musicians from all traditional forms of music, not only American, but world tribal musics as well. Anyone deadicated to the exploration of ideas would be welcomed. Think about it! A nameless band that is in contant flux, always being contributed to by somebody new. This "thing" could then be drawn upon by others to keep exposing the magic:) One person I think is sorely needed in the creation of all of this is David Grisman. Mickey, I think you are our connection to world music. We need to get our minds together, return to the well, fill it up, lower down again, and create a new nameless "something" that would be open to all possibilities. Then each of those musicians could bring what they learned from it into their own band, offering all types of interpretations in the common good:) Thanks for the soapbox, Deadbase! ~Warlok~